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Broken Arrow 46K Race Companion
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Two loops can turn a fast mountain race into a straight up psychological experiment. Broken Arrow 46K is the perfect example: you rip a demanding first lap, punish your quads on the descent, and then get asked to climb back into the pain cave all over again. We’re back with Steve Taylor to preview how this ultramarathon-style trail race really plays out when pacing mistakes start compounding and the second loop becomes the only thing that matters.
We dig into the stakes, including the prize money, and then get specific on the men’s field: why Eli Hemming looks like the clear favorite, what it would take for someone like Chad Hall to actually break him, and how racers like Noel Williams, Brian Whitfield, and Cole Campbell fit into the front pack math. We also go deep on sleepers and high-variance names, from Jared Hazen’s upside to under-the-radar threats like Matt Chorney, Matt Zupan, Mikey Mitchell, and Nicholas Turko. If you like race strategy, we talk through where separation is likely to happen and why this course rewards patience more than ego.
Then we shift to what might be the main event: the women’s race. We make the case that the women’s field is deeper, talk Rachel Drake’s form, Dani Moreno’s toughness coming off injury, and why Jasmine Louther and Leah Yingling make the triple crown storyline so interesting. We also debate whether the women can dip under last year’s winning time and what kind of day it takes to earn a podium at Broken Arrow 46K.
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Broken Arrow 46K Course Stakes
SPEAKER_01All right, Steve Taylor, welcome back to the Steep Stuff Podcast. We are here to preview the Broken Arrow 46K.
SPEAKER_00How's it going, my friend? I am doing really well. I am getting and now the energy's flowing. I'm I'm getting in the mindset for Broken Arrow.
SPEAKER_01I love how we set aside like an hour 30 to do all three of these race previews. One preview took took an hour and deep. Yeah, we'll make this one a little bit quicker because I feel like this is the least depth depth or least deep of the three. I'd say it's just as important though. 46K is a I'd say this is the hard one of the hardest ones just because, dude, there's it's so hard to be have like run a 23k and then come down like after destroying your quads on that like road descent and then have to go right back up again. You know, I have such respect for those athletes.
SPEAKER_00If anyone's ever done quad rock 50, uh 50 mile up in um Fort Collins, or if they've ever done the Collegiate Peaks uh 25 or 50 miler, um it is demoralizing to go out and do a loop and then know that you just have to go out and do it again, just as hard, if not uh holding uh holding very, very close to it. So I it is not only a huge fitness test because there is a significant amount of climb on this one, but it is also just knowing that once you once you get through one loop of it, it's the same thing all over again. It's wild. It's wild.
SPEAKER_01Man, the 46K last year was such a big race. It was the selection race for the short trail world, or yeah, sure, I guess they call it short trails short trail worlds team uh to go compete in Cun Frank. The stakes were very high. The stakes are still high this year. Um, absolutely insane. This year, almost $20,000 in prize money is on the line, $9,800 per gender. So the M1F1 is coming home with four or a $4,000 check. Not half bad for, I don't know, a four-hour race for the men and just shot of a five-hour race for the women. Uh M2, F2 comes home with two grand, and M3, F3 comes home with $1,000. Um yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy. Uh lots of storylines on this one. Lots of returners.
Men’s Favorites And Key Returners
SPEAKER_01I'd say first and foremost, Eli Hemming. Uh, I'd say the notable favor for this race, and the 2025 champ is returning as long, as well as Cole Campbell, who's had a lot of success in this race before. Should be noted Noel Williams, who took fourth place last year in this race and was just off of uh making the team at this race, was later added to the team and then performed insanely. Um, and and obviously was a top American in the short trail at that time uh at that race. Cade Michael also returns along with Chad Hall in this race. Chad Hall is one of my sleepers. I think Chad Hall can win this race. I'm very excited to see what he does.
SPEAKER_00I mean, he's he comes from running dynasty, and he has already proven himself to be a part of that dynasty. Uh, he's so fast. He's one of the fastest pure trail athletes I've seen.
SPEAKER_01You want to talk about one of the most genuine and kind human beings? I had like I did a great episode with him, dude. And like we didn't even talk about running. Like, it was just meta. And uh just a good, good human. Like he's a very interesting guy, and he's supremely talented. So uh great head of hair. Does have good hair. Yeah, a lot of a lot of good heads of hair. Uh Brian Whitfield as well is in this race. Very excited to see what Brian does. Another one just off of the world's team last year, got sixth, ran 411.41, one of the fastest times ever on this course, and uh absolutely insane. Lots of sleepers as well. Anything stick out to you, Steve? Anything that uh kind of piques your your mind?
SPEAKER_00Uh I I do have a few, I I've got a I do have a few uh good names in there, some that are just kind of fun names. Um, obviously, I I don't know if anyone else saw this kind of going through. Um, Darren Thomas is exceptionally talented, formerly a uh Colorado Springs uh local, um, has really made his name kind of doing every single distance, but is extremely talented in the 50k distance. Um he is now out in Reno, uh trains a lot with um uh oh gosh, their um sub hub host. Um her husband. Yeah, her husband. They believe they run together. Yeah, I believe they run together a fair amount. Um they're I I'm excited to see him out there. Super nice guy as well. Uh fun name that um won't won't be breaking any uh records, but Dave Mackey from Boulder, just uh an ultra legend, um, just a fun name to see out there on the men's side. Um in terms of did you mention mention Jackson Cole as well?
SPEAKER_01So that's actually something I wanted to put out there. Um Jackson will not be in this race. Um gotcha. Not gonna say yeah, not not saying why, we're not blowing up his spot, but I just will say he will be a notable scratcher.
SPEAKER_00Okay. That's good to know. I I was keeping an eye on him, wasn't aware that he was dropping uh.
SPEAKER_01It's a bummer because it would have been a podium contender. He's one of the best, like I think he's so slept on, and probably one of the best mountain runners on the planet. Like he I would have loved to see him and Noah go at it again. So that would have been fun.
SPEAKER_00I know. And uh a name that uh I I know that uh people who listen to the pod probably are starting to realize I have a little bit of an alter bias, but I I'm I've bought in fair I've bought in pretty heavy to the skill set that sub athletes do have. But one name that could uh end up being top 10, top five contender if he's in exceptionally good shape, uh Jared Hazen. Um he used to he used to just absolutely crush people in 50k to 100k distance. One of the uh great all-time Western state finishes, but he is still I mean, he's been in the sport for so long, I think people forget he's only 31. He's younger than I am. Um he's still he had a he had a pretty solid uh gorge waterfalls earlier this year, ran 423 um for 15th overall. Not not the strongest he's ever been. 50K? Uh it was the 50k, yes.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00So not the strongest uh of all time that he's ever been. Um, but he's he's just someone. He could be coming back or could have been coming back. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So he's someone I would be very mindful of going into this race because he could he he could break off and have a great day. Um Matthew uh Seidel is also uh really, really fast. And I think um I I have him personally sitting around my top five.
SPEAKER_01Really? You know, I've had him, I've had him in the mix before, and it and this has not performed to like my some of the expectations for some of these races, but I definitely could see him. I think he's uh he's a better ultra athlete as well. Yeah. Whereas like some of the shorter stuff and more punchy mountain y stuff, maybe a less degree. He um sorry.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I was gonna say he also has an exceptionally fast marathon to his name. I believe he ran it in a um he ran Boston in a banana suit and ran sub 230 or something along those lines. Which is crazy speed all which is crazy fast as is.
SPEAKER_01You know, I think this is gonna be like a light version of the of the 2025 race, in my opinion. Because we just it's just not not quite as deep, but I think a lot of your like we'll get in my opinion, the way the race will play out. You're gonna get separation from Eli. You'll get Noah in tow along with Brian Whitfield. And I think I I'm curious to see if if Chad's got the stones to go with Eli and just have them just completely go to the death. Because Chad could win this race. I will I'm very curious to see if Chad could break Eli. I I don't know. I don't really know where Eli's at. Eli obviously wins just about everything he touches. Uh and Chad has a similar pedigree, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he uh Eli did just win that UT, the new UTMB race out in Pennsylvania. Um Roth Rock. Rothrock, that's right. Uh exceptionally, exceptionally um rocky course. This is this is gonna be much more runnable by by comparison, but it also has uh a significant
Men’s Sleepers And Race Scenarios
SPEAKER_00more or a significant amount of climbing. So this runs a lot closer to a speed goat than it does a Rothrock just because the technicality isn't there.
SPEAKER_01He absolutely smoked, and this is Eli, he absolutely smoked the uh um GoPro games 20k like last week last week last week. Yeah, yeah. Um or no, it was two weeks ago, something like that. Um yeah, I'm losing losing track of time. Uh time isn't linear, isn't it? Um yeah, I think I've got an idea of how the how the race is gonna play out. Keep an eye out for some new names on there. Like I could see like Cole Campbell's a dog, dude. Like he's such a like a gamer. It would be really cool to see him like get on the podium, if not win this race. Like he's been right there so many times with a fourth place in 2023, sixth in 24, and then ninth in 2025. So probably in 2025 didn't perform to his expectations, but still it was such a deep field. The one who I'm looking out for is Brian Whitfield. Brian Whitfield intrigues me. Not only is he a friend uh and a good human, but like Brian is he doesn't race a ton, but when he does, he doesn't really miss. Like you're talking about, I mean, in what we were talking about before, one of the most uh competitive races, if not the most competitive race ever assembled on American soil, was the 2023 Pikes Peak Ascent. Brian ran 215 low, no, 213 low. God, I should I should know this off the top of my head. Ran an extremely like he was you know top 10 and did performed extremely well. 213. Okay, there you go. Um ran super well, and then same thing, you know, goes and wins the Pikes Peak Ascent a couple years later, you know, gets his name in the history books for that, and then on top of that, last year goes sixth place. He was really trying to get on the world's team, was just literally just off of it. So I could see Brian doing really well here, too. I mean, he's been he's lives out in Gunnison now, moved out from Colorado Springs.
SPEAKER_00RIP.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. We'll see, we'll see how much he's improved and what changes he's made, but I would expect him to do very well. Cade Michael's also, you know, another one, dude. I could see him one of those.
SPEAKER_00Everyone's uh Kate Michael is one of those guys that everyone sort of argues is one of the most fit people in Boulder, but I know that um he has kind of been dabbling a little bit more into the long ultras, longer ultra stuff. So uh I'd I'd be interested to see where his fitness is for the for a 50k. So that's still exciting, though.
SPEAKER_01Some names that I don't want people to sleep on that will compete for the top 10. First one is Matt Chorney. Matt is so talented. He's uh lives in Jackson, Wyoming. Uh, has absolutely smoked me two years in a row now at Cirx Series uh uh what is it, Grand Targy. He's been he's beaten Meccalino both times there, too. Like he's really, really good. Um yeah, he's always on on the just off the podium or top five uh every time at that race, and always gets a really solid world-class field. He's also been top 15. Last year he was top 15 at Sonopee, um, which was the deepest year Sune P's really ever been. Um another name to look out for, Matt Zupan, who lives uh kind of in that area, in the um, I guess you could say the greater Tahoe area, if you will. Um, he was third at the Big Alpha 100k this past year. Um, obviously won Mountain Tiger in that area, which is a great local race, growing local race, too. Hasn't quite popped off yet in the broken arrow races. I mean, he was 22nd uh in the 46k in 2025. I think he's had a couple top 20 results, so he's been right there. So will this be the year that he takes that step forward? That's very possible. Um, another one is Mikey Mitchell. You know who Mikey Mitchell is? No, I don't. Tell me. He's the I think he's the Ray, he's Rave Tinker. Is that what is his uh is it's oh yes, yes, uh the rave tank. He's a real yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_00He's very talented.
SPEAKER_01He's a super good runner, dude. So I I don't and I don't know if he's fucking around, if he's like actually serious about racing this or if he's just there for fun. Um but if he's actually racing, like he's just spicy. He was eighth at the Pikespeak Ascent last year, um, tenth at Speedgoat last year as well. And uh he's had great results at Leadville. I think this year he lives in BV because he's training for the Leadville 100. Uh, don't don't I wouldn't sleep on that kid. Like, I I mean I don't think he's gonna win the race, but like I wouldn't be surprised if he's top 20. I he definitely has the ability to be top 25 in this race. Maybe, maybe higher up, who knows? Um, so yeah, don't don't don't be surprised if he does very, very well if he's if he's serious.
SPEAKER_00So yeah. I one other name um that I think it based on their training group of friends and just how their progression has gone, um, keep an eye out for Nicholas Turko, someone who's exceptionally talented, exceptionally talented, very fast, really great group of training friends. If anyone's a fan of watching the athlete special, Ali Ostrander and Lauren Gregory on uh YouTube, you you will consistently see Nicholas featured in their training runs. Um also just seems like a really good person, but like is exceptionally talented. Um came in 10th at uh Canyon's 50k earlier this year. Uh I think has just been building really well over the last few months as uh also. So keep an eye out for him.
SPEAKER_01Oh, 100%, dude. You know, he works for the United Nations. He's got like on the podcast part, he's a really interesting human, like a very good and interesting human, super cool guy. Yeah, big fan of him and competes on the Golden Trail World Series uh perennially, like generally. Um last year he's had a great race here. This year I think he's totally he was just raced as a gama. So uh totally capable of performing very well. So all right, moving on. What do
Men’s Podium Picks And Times
SPEAKER_01you got for your men's picks?
SPEAKER_00So hold on one second, just re-pulling up my list real quick. Let's just do top three. Yeah, I think keeping with the top three is gonna be good. I am gonna go, you know what? Yeah, so as you can tell, I I tend to pick on the fly, but I have generally an idea of where people are gonna land. I'm gonna go Brian Whitfield. Uh no, yeah, Brian Whitfield. I'm I'm gonna have him coming out and taking the W, surprisingly. I think there's an upset. Okay. I think there's an upset, and then I'm gonna go Eli. Eli has been going Eli's Eli's so good, and then I'm I feel like there's so many good names, and then between him, between Noah Williams and Chad Hall, I'm gonna go Noah Williams.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Well, I like that. So my curiosity this year, the men's time last year, Eli ran 350-48, pushed by David Sinclair. I don't think they're gonna run that fast this year. I mean, it's possible if Chad like assumes the David Sinclair role and they're chased by I think I think honestly the podium plays out very similar to last year. I don't know if we run that fast. I think it might be a little bit slower, but still under four hours for the men. Um I'm gonna say Eli wins, and I think it's gonna be Eli and Chad very close throughout the race. I think Eli won't get separation, in my opinion, and maybe until the second loop somewhere. Uh I'd see it playing out very similar to last year. And then I think the third place spot is very highly contested, and I think it's either Noah Williams or Brian Whitfield. Now, Noah has a lot of, you know, you gotta remember, Noah lives in Leadville, ski legs. He's um, you know, he's a ski mountaineer. I I think like there's a ton of fitness and stuff like that coming out. I just don't know where his running legs are at, but he always just seems to be right there and really good. So you can never count Noah out of a race like this, which is why, especially last year he shocked the I I don't really think he shocked people, but I think his performance was really solid and and amongst the best in the world, um, especially with what he did at Worlds and what he did at Broken Arrow. So it's gonna be but I think it's yeah, I think it's between Brian and Noah for the third place spot, and we're gonna see who wants it more.
SPEAKER_00Um quick quick side story about Noah. I uh signed up and ran uh Never Summer uh 60K a few years ago, and he was on the list, and I was you know trying to pick out who were gonna be the people that I was gonna try and race with. Of course, I found out I had Giarty a day of the race and I was throwing up at every race at every aid station. So I ended up uh I I think I came in a cool 70th or something like that that day. Um and I'm not even sure if Noah ended up ended up coming out, but my my mind was very focused on like, okay, this is the person I need to latch on to. Wouldn't have mattered anyways, though.
SPEAKER_01That's actually really funny. Yeah, Noah's a great guy. I he's an amazing human and a great guy and a fierce competitor. And um it would be very fitting for him to get on the podium here. And I think he absolutely you know works very hard and deserves it, just like all these athletes. So yeah, somewhere I Noah, Brian, Eli, Chad, that all seems right. Someone maybe in a different order. We'll see what happens, but I think that's that's kind of where it comes out. Um, like I said, I the one person who I really think is gonna do very well here, watch out for Matt Chorney. I think that guy could do extremely well. Um, definitely I think top 10. But moving on to the women.
Women’s Field Depth And Storylines
SPEAKER_01Dude, the women's race. I think the women's race is deeper than the men's race here, in my opinion. 100% it is. Holy cannoli. I mean, Danny Marino, uh, Caroline Accorte, Katie Katie Osmith, Leah Yingling, Rachel Drake, Jasmine Louther, Robin Lesh, Sarah Carter, Shaq Willano, Mally Noise, Alyssa Clark, Kimmy Schreiber. Shout out to Germany.
SPEAKER_00Etc., etc., etc.
SPEAKER_01Like, and there's probably like 10 people I also didn't name. So it is absolutely insane. Dan, I think Danny stands out on this list, in my opinion, as someone who could very well win. Third place in 2025, coming off one. She came off an injury last year, and then once again coming off another injury. Um we'll see. Yeah, I have no idea. But like the fact that she was able to do that well coming off an injury and make a worlds team. Obviously, she didn't race for worlds, but um, the fact that she was able to do it was quite impressive.
SPEAKER_00So, yeah. I mean, we we have so the women's racing has been so spectacular the last few years. And this is I I truly believe that this is uh twice as beep as the men's side. Um I have a tough time ever root or uh voting against Rachel Drake. She's just proven from short distance to long distance that she's a contender, she knows how to win, and or she at least knows how to be a thorn in someone's side, whether that's her intention or not. But she is just so good at racing. And it um she obviously just put up an incredible time uh over on Grandeur. So she's she's really, really fit for something shorter right now, too, even though she's gearing up for a longer race this year.
SPEAKER_01Let me check my email. She was ran 4321 on Granger. And for those of you who don't know, the Granger West Face is like like a perfect VK. It's like two or three miles with like over 3,000 feet of vertical. I don't know the exact, exact specs on it, but um 41 is pretty freaking solid, dude. My god, yeah. Yeah, uh, that's so fast. Yeah, Rachel Drake, dude, uh always been a big fan of hers, perennial contender anywhere she goes. Uh, a couple of names I'm curious about Leah Yingling. This is the longest distance. Um, I don't know how she fares in something like the Ascent or the 23K because she is going for the triple crown. I think she her and Jasmine are probably the two that I have my eye on for the triple crown.
SPEAKER_00Like how like how recently did how recently did Leah have her child?
SPEAKER_01That's a really good question. I have no idea.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um because I I would Leah is so talented, and um I she may not remember this. I got to hang out with her um for like an evening with her and Mike and a few other people uh out at UTM during UTMB a few years ago. And she is just someone who knows how to put in work, work, work and build, build, build. Um obviously, uh I if she if she's had enough time to come back from uh postpartum from giving birth, I you know I I would love to see that that battle that you're you're kind of lining up between her, Katie Yasmuth, and Jasmine. Um I think those are three really interesting names. Um, but obviously life circumstances can really change someone's fitness as well.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I still think she competes for the I mean if she actually goes, I think she competes for the Vortis. I just tried to peep her Strava, but it's actually I don't follow her on Strava, or we don't follow each other on Strava, and she is um she's Strava private. Um she hasn't posted about Broken Arrow, but it doesn't mean she's not gonna be there. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I should have asked her. That would have been uh that that would have been journalistic integrity. I should have asked her before the race. Um well let's just say if she's there, I think she'll compete very well. And if she's not, then we still wish her well.
SPEAKER_00So uh yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, some some good people in this race. Uh Jasmine as well. Um, I did not know Jazz was actually on the start list. Michaelino's not racing, by the way, the 46K. He was signed up, but he's not racing anymore. Um, what a bummer. But Jazz is you could have so you could have flamed him a little bit as could have no no. Um looking forward to seeing him this week. Uh Leah, Rachel, Jasmine, Robin Lesh, dude. That is a name that stands out. Uh eighth in twenty twenty five, always a perennial contender, always right there. Yeah. Um, this could this be her year for the podium? I mean, she's had great success at Ed Race. I think of like Borat word every time. Uh great success. Anyway. Great success. She's a great success at At Speed Goat and someone I think could do well. Dude, we didn't name Sarah Carter as well. 2025 Pike Speaker Set champion. Has been kind of on a pretty good list of like UTMB 50Ks that she's been doing well at. Sarah's another one I think could do extremely well here. Mally Noise was two-time podium contender at Speed Goat. She Aqualana was in this race as well. Oh, okay. She's another one. And then Kimi Schreiber, who was third at the Canyons 50K in 2025. Kimmy Schreiber, let's go. She she's I always want to like, yeah, I always want to pronounce like her word with like a German accent, but I can never do it.
SPEAKER_00I've got a little bit of German knowledge, so I can I can speak a little bit, so I I will be the annoying guy correcting your pronunciation on this one. Go for it. But another name um looks like has raced a few times this year and done very well. Taylor Nallen, especially in the um in the 50k distance, uh, obviously has a little bit more history in uh some of the longer stuff. Um, but it looks like she has really been doing uh some building from the end of last year uh around Y East uh Trailfest building from 20K, 38k, uh, and then a 30K. And then she's done uh three successive 50Ks where she's done second or better at all three of them. So building into some really good uh you know, 45 to 50k um uh endurance and speed right now.
SPEAKER_01Fantastic. I mean, and she really started out on really on the short trail side before going up in racing races like Western States and things like that. So do not be surprised to see her compete, you know, and do very well here. Um, what's your
Women’s Podium Picks And Record Talk
SPEAKER_01what's your podium pick? What you got?
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah. So I'm gonna go. These are two names that we we popped off right at the top. I'm gonna go Rachel Drake taking this one overall. I think she's just that grander performance was just such a marquee performance for me that I have a hard time betting against her, even in something that's a little bit shorter than her UTMB training. But I'm gonna go Rachel Drake one, um, Danny Moreno two, and then for three, uh this is maybe just a heart pick because I I really vibe with her uh I really vibe with her overall training style, and you have uh personal ties with her, but Jasmine Louth are gone three.
SPEAKER_01God damn it, you have my same exact podium. Uh let me ask you this. Do you think do you think women go under last year's time 442 32? Is that right? Let me just make sure that's right. But do you think yeah, do you think that's yeah, are you on ultra sign up? What is it?
SPEAKER_00I think it's on I think it's on I think it's on watch for right now. Yes. I think there's a very real chance that we are going that we're going under that.
SPEAKER_01Because I don't know, man. Like uh, you know, I don't know. Uh Jen Lichner is like so good. Um I'm very curious to see if like Rachel would like try and like touch that time or get close to that. I don't know. It's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting.
SPEAKER_00It is. I'm sorry, I'm just gonna be.
SPEAKER_01No, you're good. On an aside, uh, who do you got for Western States? On the women. Because I think the women's race is like even more interesting.
SPEAKER_00I I mean it wouldn't be the first time that a first timer wins the race. Um I think that's a feeling I exactly I'm I'm I'm so scared of how fit she is.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, dude, she's a boss, man. Yeah, it would be really cool. Um I but then at the same time I could also see um 442.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, 442-32.
SPEAKER_01It was 442. Okay. Yeah. So I'd be curious to see if Rachel can like attack that. I I mean it's very possible we go under that this year. We'll see.
SPEAKER_00I mean, Rachel's not too far off of it either.
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SPEAKER_00What did Danny run last year? Danny came in third and ran 443-48. Um, and Helen uh was 443-08. So uh separated by about 30 seconds.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I I mean I think Danny, you've got to remember too. I mean, uh, it's hard to say like levels of like where she was last year versus this year, just because both years she's coming off an injury. Um if she could do that last year, I'm sure she could do that this year. And that's that's a that's a hard, that's gonna be a hard time to beat. So Danny could really well win this race. I it for me, I do. I have Rachel Drake, Danny in second, and I did have Jazz in third, copycat. Um don't don't get me wrong.
SPEAKER_00You're just trying to get in good with your code.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we will see. Um, all right, let's move on. I don't think there's anything more to cover for the 46k. No, exciting. The marathon continues. All right, let's do oh, really one more thing.
Wrap Up Plus Steve’s Work
SPEAKER_01Uh before um, well, we'll record it after. But um no, we can record it now.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01Steve, what uh tell everybody what you do.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I'm sorry, hold on. I can just shut my door. Yeah, do that one more time. Sorry. Tell everybody what you do. So, everybody, uh, my name is Steve Taylor. I am a commercial insurance advisor. I work for Glenwood Insurance. Uh, so what I do is I work with uh businesses, but specifically outdoor industry businesses, whether they be in the retail, recreation, or manufacturing space, um, to help them get the commercial insurance solutions. So if you ever have any questions about uh about your business's coverage, you can give me an email at steve dot tailor at glenwoodins.com or you can find me at glenwood insurance dot coming, and then you can't get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.
